Mean Moms' Club

Sue Patterson

Who Are the Mean Moms?

As I was working on the Mother's Day podcast, I fell down a rabbit hole! And so I'm inviting you to join me. 🤣

Who are TRULY Mean Moms?
And, as television and movies play such a role in most of our lives, here's my list!

If you think of others, let me know!

Peggy is a lazy and selfish mother who prioritizes her own comfort and desires over those of her children.

Cersei Lannister

Game of Thrones


Cersei is a manipulative and controlling mother who will stop at nothing to protect and advance her own interests, even if it means sacrificing her children's well-being.


Marie is an overbearing and intrusive mother who meddles in her adult children's lives and undermines their confidence.

Lucille Bluth

Arrested Development

Lucille is a neglectful and emotionally abusive mother who often puts her own needs and desires above those of her children.


Gemma Teller

Sons of Anarchy

Gemma is a manipulative and controlling mother who will go to extreme lengths to protect her family, even if it means committing violent acts.

Regina George's Mom

Mean Girls

Regina's mom is shown to be more of a friend than a parent, encouraging her daughter to be popular at any cost, even if it means being cruel to others.

Joan Crawford

Mommie Dearest

(based on a true story)


Crawford is a domineering and abusive mother who subjects her adopted daughter to physical and emotional abuse in an effort to mold her into the perfect Hollywood starlet.

Betty Draper

Mad Men

Betty is a cold and distant mother who struggles to connect with her children and often uses them as a means to fulfill her own desires for status and attention.

Mrs. White

Matilda

Mrs. White is an abusive and neglectful mother who mistreats her daughter, Matilda, and neglects her other children.

Norma Bates

Bates Motel

Norma is a possessive and controlling mother who will do whatever it takes to protect her son, Norman, even if it means covering up his crimes.

Livia Soprano

The Sopranos


Livia is a narcissistic and emotionally abusive mother who manipulates and undermines her son, Tony, at every opportunity.

Eleanor Hale

Dead to Me

Eleanor, manipulative and self-serving, Judy visits her in prison and sees that things have not changed.

Nancy Botwin

Weeds

Nancy is a single mother who becomes involved in the drug trade to support her family, exposing her children to dangerous situations and jeopardizing their safety.

Jessica Jones

Jessica Jones

Jessica is a flawed and often self-destructive character who struggles with her role as a mother and the guilt and trauma of losing her child.

Bonnie Plunkett

Mom

Bonnie is a recovering alcoholic who has a strained relationship with her daughter, Christy, due to her past neglect and selfish behavior.

Catelyn Stark

Game of Thrones

Catelyn is a loving and protective mother, but her actions sometimes put her children in danger, such as when she releases Jaime Lannister in exchange for her daughters.

Mrs. Bennet

Pride and Prejudice

Mrs. Bennet is a vain and superficial mother who is obsessed with finding husbands for her five daughters, often ignoring their feelings and desires.

Linda

The Babadook

 Linda is a struggling single mother who becomes overwhelmed by her grief and begins to neglect and mistreat her son, leading to terrifying consequences.

Evelyn Harper

Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle


Evelyn is a self-centered and neglectful mother who cares more about her career than her son, Spencer, leading him to seek solace in the Jumanji game.

Sarah Pierce

Little Children

 Sarah is a neglectful and unfaithful mother who neglects her daughter, Lucy, in favor of an affair with a married man.

M'Lynn Eatenton

Steel Magnolias

M'Lynn is a controlling and overbearing mother who struggles to let go of her daughter, Shelby, leading to tension and conflict in their relationship.

Mildred Hayes

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Mildred is a vengeful and abusive mother who uses violence and destruction to cope with the loss of her daughter.

Mother

I Am Mother

In this dystopian sci-fi thriller, a maternal robot named Mother raises a flesh-and-blood girl named Daughter alone inside a fortified bunker as part of a plan to repopulate a devastated postapocalyptic Earth. But when Daughter lets in a wounded human woman (Hilary Swank) who’s skeptical of Mother’s intentions, Daughter’s allegiance crumbles, and she begins to wonder: Does Mother know best? Perfect for moms who love a good debate — about the many meanings and motivations of motherhood.

Sue Ann

Ma

Ricocheting from sweetness to fury, Octavia Spencer gives a sharply calibrated, snowball-cold performance as a damaged Gen X parent with a bloodthirsty appetite for vengeance.

Amy, Kiki, Carla

Bad Moms

Not really "mean" at all
... but wanted to include them in this list of oddball moms!

An escapist fantasy about stressed-out suburban mothers who are so fed up with the pressure to be perfect neo-Donna Reeds that they stop playing nice and go for broke in wildly buffoonish, boozy and hilariously irresponsible ways. 

Just a little collection for you, in case you'd like to remind yourself that YOU are actually doing a good job!

At least you're not THESE MOMS!

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